For a while now, OPs have been able to use commands such as /d falling_block barrier to completely remove themselves from the tablist and make themselves invisible in game. This has been used countless times for trolling and griefing.
I see no reason as to why it should be unblocked, we could block the invisible entity-specific disguises and keep the rest of the falling_blocks available to all players, like we did with /d p
I vouch, shit like this is starting to get a bit irritating
@Shdwo#9143 What exactly was the issue with /d p, apart from the issue of being able to frame players. Which is invalid anyway with the ability to use coreprotect (if we can get it working properly).
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Object. I agree with Panther here.
As an OP I actually used this feature quite a bit when catching rulebreakers. It has to stay, it's quite useful.
people can disguise as anything to hide their name on that. people can also just use setInvisible true to make themselves invisible, also. i object to this suggestion, but i think that the plugin should be modified to remove the sethideplayer disguise addition, so that people can't hide themselves on the tablist and spectator menu.
Object. Invisibility is a basic element of freedom that has always been one of TotalFreedom's features. On top of that, admins have a command to undisguise players already. I would actually go the other way and say that we should try to implement vanish as an op feature so long as admins can see vanished ops and other ops can't see vanished ops/admins.
@jjjaguar2000#9147 Nothing, I was only referencing the fact that we blocked that specific variant of disguise.. so it'd also be possible with this too
Object, panther's reason.
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A player effectively removes themself from the tab player list, so they are essentially vanished. This is easily abusable and hard to indicate by admins.
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Object, same reason as Panther.
Object, while it can be used to annoy players, it isn't a feature that annoys players on its own. This server is called TotalFreedom, and staff are able to undisguise players if they suspect someone of abusing this.
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i don’t think there is any real harm in ops being able to do this.
@ThePyroManActualAccount#9153 I think you misunderstand the point of this thread. I'm not suggesting to remove /d falling_block , I'm suggesting to remove the ability to disguise as invisible entities VIA /d falling_block
e.g /d falling_block barrier - would be blocked, however /d falling_block grass_block - would not be blocked
@Panther#9150 a better suggestion would be for a cmd that allows admins to see disguised players
May I also add that when disguising as an invisible entity, you bypass the ability to be seen on /invis which can be classified as an exploit.
@Shdwo#9362
However you can just run /uall and undisguise. If it was an exploit it would've been spotted a while back
@Ashaz#9364 However SCENARIO: If someone was being a nuisance or griefing and an admin isn't online, the player can't run /invis to grab the invisible player's name in order to report them.
@Shdwo#9352 ye, that seems about right, vouch
@Shdwo#9366 /list shows all players regardless of whether or not they're digsuise
